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2020 August 05

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ILYA MARTYANOV in Moscow Python
Peter Sovietov
x = 5
if x == 5:
   print: ('yes!')

Представляете, некоторые не могут правильно сказать, что делает это код! %)
без указания версии python правильный ответ неочевиден
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Николай Видов... in Moscow Python
ILYA MARTYANOV
без указания версии python правильный ответ неочевиден
двоеточие после print намекает, что вы не правы
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ILYA MARTYANOV in Moscow Python
Николай Видов
двоеточие после print намекает, что вы не правы
Двоеточие (аннотации) недоступны в некоторых версиях Python
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Николай Видов... in Moscow Python
ILYA MARTYANOV
Двоеточие (аннотации) недоступны в некоторых версиях Python
А причём тут аннотации?
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Николай Видов... in Moscow Python
Ох, я понял.
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Andrey Terekhov in Moscow Python
Никто не помнит, в 3.8 датаклассы на си переписали?
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Andrey Terekhov in Moscow Python
И ещё вопросик:
Есть для TypeScript аналог Pydantic?)
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Storm Trooper in Moscow Python
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Mikhail Novikov in Moscow Python
российский трейдер и аналитик спрогнозировал... эта инфа по профильным чатикам уже месяц гуляет )
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Storm Trooper in Moscow Python
Мне первый раз попалась :)
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Vladimir Manatskov in Moscow Python
> В-третьих, Дуров недавно тайно посещал Санкт-Петербург

Ага, инкогнито...
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Storm Trooper in Moscow Python
Просто лично мне не хотелось бы продажи Телеги, пусть дальше развивает
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Herman Shinkarenko in Moscow Python
вроде как пишет, что не собирается
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Herman Shinkarenko in Moscow Python
I can understand why the US gov threatens to ban TikTok unless its US assets are sold to US investors. After all, China bans pretty much every non-Chinese social media app on its territory. Why should the rest of the world, including the US, let a Chinese app have a free ride in their markets? If you want to access the markets of other countries, you should also open your market to them – that would be fair.

However, the US move against TikTok is setting a dangerous precedent that may eventually kill the internet as a truly global network (or what is left of it). Before the US-TikTok saga, only autocratic countries like Iran, China or Russia were known for bullying tech companies into selling parts of their businesses to investors with close ties to their governments. It’s not surprising, for example, that Uber had to sell both their Russian and Chinese branches to local players.

I am proud that, unlike Uber, we at Telegram have always declined offers to sell our operations in specific countries. A few years ago we received letters from two funds with ties to countries that later attempted to block Telegram. Both letters expressed the same idea: “Telegram is going to get blocked in our country soon, so your only option is to sell us the local part of your business”. My response to those offers has been along the lines of my 2011 middle finger photo: we are not in the business of betraying our users. We are not selling Telegram – neither in part, nor in full. This will always be our position.

The problem with the US-TikTok case is that it legitimises an extortion tactic previously employed only by authoritarian regimes. For decades, the US has been perceived as the defender of free trade and free speech. But now that China has started to replace them as the main beneficiary of global trade, the US (or at least the Trump administration) seems to have become less enthusiastic about those values. This is regrettable, because billions of people on this planet still like the idea of an open and interconnected world.

Last week, Turkey introduced a bunch of laws limiting social media companies. A few years ago, the US would have had the moral right to criticise such efforts, citing freedom of speech and free trade as ideological foundations for their concerns. Today it’s less clear whether the US still has that right. Authoritarian leaders all over the world are already using the TikTok case as justification in their attempts to carve out a piece of the global internet for themselves. Soon, every big country is likely to use “national security” as a pretext to fracture international tech companies. And ironically, it’s the US companies like Facebook or Google that are likely to lose the most from the fallout.
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Andrey Terekhov in Moscow Python
Storm Trooper
Просто лично мне не хотелось бы продажи Телеги, пусть дальше развивает
А где там слухи что у него звание в органах есть? 🤣
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Storm Trooper in Moscow Python
Andrey Terekhov
А где там слухи что у него звание в органах есть? 🤣
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Storm Trooper in Moscow Python
Herman Shinkarenko
I can understand why the US gov threatens to ban TikTok unless its US assets are sold to US investors. After all, China bans pretty much every non-Chinese social media app on its territory. Why should the rest of the world, including the US, let a Chinese app have a free ride in their markets? If you want to access the markets of other countries, you should also open your market to them – that would be fair.

However, the US move against TikTok is setting a dangerous precedent that may eventually kill the internet as a truly global network (or what is left of it). Before the US-TikTok saga, only autocratic countries like Iran, China or Russia were known for bullying tech companies into selling parts of their businesses to investors with close ties to their governments. It’s not surprising, for example, that Uber had to sell both their Russian and Chinese branches to local players.

I am proud that, unlike Uber, we at Telegram have always declined offers to sell our operations in specific countries. A few years ago we received letters from two funds with ties to countries that later attempted to block Telegram. Both letters expressed the same idea: “Telegram is going to get blocked in our country soon, so your only option is to sell us the local part of your business”. My response to those offers has been along the lines of my 2011 middle finger photo: we are not in the business of betraying our users. We are not selling Telegram – neither in part, nor in full. This will always be our position.

The problem with the US-TikTok case is that it legitimises an extortion tactic previously employed only by authoritarian regimes. For decades, the US has been perceived as the defender of free trade and free speech. But now that China has started to replace them as the main beneficiary of global trade, the US (or at least the Trump administration) seems to have become less enthusiastic about those values. This is regrettable, because billions of people on this planet still like the idea of an open and interconnected world.

Last week, Turkey introduced a bunch of laws limiting social media companies. A few years ago, the US would have had the moral right to criticise such efforts, citing freedom of speech and free trade as ideological foundations for their concerns. Today it’s less clear whether the US still has that right. Authoritarian leaders all over the world are already using the TikTok case as justification in their attempts to carve out a piece of the global internet for themselves. Soon, every big country is likely to use “national security” as a pretext to fracture international tech companies. And ironically, it’s the US companies like Facebook or Google that are likely to lose the most from the fallout.
Это хорошо, что он говорит о том, что не продаст телегу, но всяко в жизни бывает
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Herman Shinkarenko in Moscow Python
Storm Trooper
Это хорошо, что он говорит о том, что не продаст телегу, но всяко в жизни бывает
я и не спорю - смотрим за ситуацией и набираемся попкорном
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Storm Trooper in Moscow Python
Ах эти российский трейдеры и аналитики :)
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Vladimir Manatskov in Moscow Python
Herman Shinkarenko
I can understand why the US gov threatens to ban TikTok unless its US assets are sold to US investors. After all, China bans pretty much every non-Chinese social media app on its territory. Why should the rest of the world, including the US, let a Chinese app have a free ride in their markets? If you want to access the markets of other countries, you should also open your market to them – that would be fair.

However, the US move against TikTok is setting a dangerous precedent that may eventually kill the internet as a truly global network (or what is left of it). Before the US-TikTok saga, only autocratic countries like Iran, China or Russia were known for bullying tech companies into selling parts of their businesses to investors with close ties to their governments. It’s not surprising, for example, that Uber had to sell both their Russian and Chinese branches to local players.

I am proud that, unlike Uber, we at Telegram have always declined offers to sell our operations in specific countries. A few years ago we received letters from two funds with ties to countries that later attempted to block Telegram. Both letters expressed the same idea: “Telegram is going to get blocked in our country soon, so your only option is to sell us the local part of your business”. My response to those offers has been along the lines of my 2011 middle finger photo: we are not in the business of betraying our users. We are not selling Telegram – neither in part, nor in full. This will always be our position.

The problem with the US-TikTok case is that it legitimises an extortion tactic previously employed only by authoritarian regimes. For decades, the US has been perceived as the defender of free trade and free speech. But now that China has started to replace them as the main beneficiary of global trade, the US (or at least the Trump administration) seems to have become less enthusiastic about those values. This is regrettable, because billions of people on this planet still like the idea of an open and interconnected world.

Last week, Turkey introduced a bunch of laws limiting social media companies. A few years ago, the US would have had the moral right to criticise such efforts, citing freedom of speech and free trade as ideological foundations for their concerns. Today it’s less clear whether the US still has that right. Authoritarian leaders all over the world are already using the TikTok case as justification in their attempts to carve out a piece of the global internet for themselves. Soon, every big country is likely to use “national security” as a pretext to fracture international tech companies. And ironically, it’s the US companies like Facebook or Google that are likely to lose the most from the fallout.
Там интересная мысль, что китайцы у себя на территории любые внешние сервисы банят, а теперь сами же обломились, когда решили выйти на глобальный рынок со своими уже сервисами. Но при этом и для США это первый случай, когда они жёстко идут вразрез со свободной торговлей и всэ такой. Собственно, демократия и свободная торговля кончилась, как только они перестали быть абсолютным гегемоном на рынке айти и и их начал теснить Китай
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