Dale Peterson interviews authors Andrew Bochman and Sarah Freemen of Idaho National Laboratory (INL) about their just published book Countering Cyber Sabotage - Introducing Consequence-driven, Cyber-informed Engineering (CCE).

The CCE methodology has been discussed by the INL team for over two years to great interest in the ICS security community. Now there is a book that describes it in some of the detail the industry was craving.

Dale begins with a 3-minute review and then dives into the interview. They start their discussion with who the book was for, their hopes for readers who finish the book, the stats on CCE, CCE training and certification and more on the program INL is rolling out.

Then the discussion shifts to a detailed Q&A on the four phases of CCE. If you have any interest in determining what should be done next in reducing ICS risk, then this is a must watch episode.